John Sweden ([info]notbinky) wrote,
@ 2004-11-08 20:55:00
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it signified his anger and his misery
Uncertain where to begin middle end.

I had a nice weekend. Went to Chicago to visit my best friend. Found out their art museum currently holds the original Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte. Pointillism and pixels are similar so I have an affinity for that one. Lucked out and got to see Bad Religion headline. Slept a lot but evidently not enough. Life has left me feeling perpetually drained recently. Just watched the season premire of The OC. Struck me as I watched it how as an observer, all the melodrama seems absurd and the answers simple, but my own life's drama leaves me in uncertain search of answers. I would be smoking a cigarette inside while I write this if I didn't live with other people which I guess is a blessing as cigarettes are stupid.

I feel betrayed by my countrymen. That's my best explanation for my last post which I absolutely do not apologize for nor recant. Although in my haste to churn it out before my flight, I said something like "midwest" when I really meant something more like "the south." I talked with Sarah to try to gain some perspective on my admittedly one-sided view of religion, since she majored in religious studies @Stanford and is now in grad school for the same, despite or perhaps because of her atheism. She still respects the believers while I simply somewhat comprehend them. It's hard to separate a person from this stupidity even when everything else about them is fine. I'm not going to respond to the comments on my last post but I appriciate them all - I was clearly looking for a response.

Sarah's explanation was that religion (to be specific here, I am talking mainly about Christianity, although it applies to all the religions especially non nature-based-stuff) was started by one guy who had nice ideas about being good to your fellow homo sapiens. He attracted followers 'cause he had a good idea. That's about where it all went wrong. The problem is, people are stupid. Education is not sufficient to make people be good to each other and make the right choices. So instead of saying "Hey, be good to people because it's the right thing to do and ultimately you and everyone else will be better off," you've gotta use "Hey, be good to people or you will burn for eternity." Great! Only its big strength is its big weakness - this fear of God is easily co-opted by powermongers who realize that it can be used equally easily for their own ends. Sarah sez that education isn't a valid substitute for religion because people are stupid and it's a depressing yet convincing argument. So the answer to religion is unclear. Anyhow, her explanation of Bush's win was this: by stressing his 'faith' and painting the struggle as a classic Good (or "Us") vs. Evil (or "Them"), he made Kerry look, well, petty - with all his "words" and "facts" and "intelligence." I'm so paraphrasing it hurts but I don't have the wherewithal to spell this out more. Honestly, at this point I think you either get it or you don't. And that standard exuse for Faith In God that goes "It's just something I need to get through the day" - lying to yourself isn't useful to you, only those who seek to manipulate you. If you want a community, find it for a reason other than mutual gullibility. If you want something to help you through the day knowing what a fucked-up place the world is, well, good luck. Me, I like the sauce. And yes, I realize that I'm being divisive and intolerant, that I'm generalizing, vilifying, and generally being republican. The irony is not lost on me. If you don't realize how self-aware I am, you don't know me.

I think I might've had more but I'm going all ADD as usual. If I owe you email or some variant thereof, I'm not ignoring you, I'm just lazy and easily distracted. Keep that breath bated.


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[info]shufly
2004-11-09 10:51 am UTC (link)
What happened last Tuesday has roots in the Christian church, but to me it has much more to do with stupidity and ignorance. I believe that in America today, very few Christians actually live the life Jesus Christ would have wanted them to live. The greatest example to me is all this banning of gay marriage. If these people actually knew about the religion they believe in, I think they would leave gay people alone and know that if they are offending God, then God shall judge them, and it is not their place to judge anyone, as that is reserved for God alone. I absolutly agree that organized religon is bad, I have always been turned off by the church and how ministers and priests will twist the Bible's teachings to fit their agenda of hate and ignorance.

I think you are offending some people because you are being ignorant in just flat out blaming Christianity for Bush's re-election. Yes, it is because of supposed Christians and Bush taking advantage of them that he won the race, but it is because of these people's ignorance to find out what being a Christian really means, I think if they had found Christianity on their own rather than through some crazy, racist, homophobic church leader, then they would have known that they were making a grave mistake.

FYI, all the Christians in my department voted for Kerry, the one non-Christian voted for Bush (guess what, she's rich!)

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[info]notbinky
2004-11-09 11:11 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I guess I didn't do a very good job of explaining myself in this post. What I was trying to express (or at least, what I originally intended before I sat down and started writing) was that I know Christianity isn't to, er, "blame" for W's re-election. No, it's Diebold and Election Systems & Software. Wait, sidetracked. What I mean is, I was trying to express that my prior post was mainly venting and I chose to vent at a group that is related to the election outcome and who I already, admittedly, have a fairly low opinion of. Intellectually, I'm aware that this is a very complicated issue and Christianity, or even religion in general, is only a piece of the pie. Just to pick one example, Bush's skillfull use of the "war on terror" as a manipulative device has absolutely nothing to do with religion, but a lot to do with the election. I just didn't bring that up in this post because I spent a lot of the weekend thinking about the religious stuff I'd spouted off in my earlier post and that's where my mind was. Anyhow. I agree with what you said, if that's not clear.

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Statistics Internet USA
(Anonymous)
2007-11-12 11:40 pm UTC (link)
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Study company Zogby International also showed that every fourth resident of the United States have their own representation in the web-site or internet-stranichka. Creating internet-dvoynikov most passionate about young people (18-24 years of age) - 78% of them have personal Web page. In doing so, 68% of those surveyed said that the World Wide Web, they do not appear in its original capacity, their virtual overnight seriously different from the real.

Only 11% of Americans would agree implantable microchip in his brain, which would provide them with direct contact with the Internet. But the situation is changing, in the case of children. Almost every fifth resident of the United States would agree to equip their child safety device which would allow him to track the movement in space on the Internet.

10% of U.S. stated that the Internet brings them to God. " In turn, 6% are convinced that because of the existence of the World Wide Web God away from them.

And how you feel? Sorry bad English.

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